User:Baggins/Archive 1

Re: Adminship Edit

Baggins, I found a bunch of early (1996 - 1997 era) KQ8 screenshots online. My name is King Kane over on the Hero-U forums. I don't know how to work this wiki, log in over there and I'll send you the pix and links.

Missing pagesEdit

Hello. I've got a current copy of daventry but I need to wait until E1ven is back online and can reopen the original wiki so I can get the page history for that one, plus the other missing ones. Don't worry though - none of the content has been lost and will be imported here as soon as possible, along with all the images. Angela@fandom (talk) 08:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Ahh good. In anycase if some of them were broken completely we might might be able to piece some of it together with wayback machine.Baggins
We're still working on the image import. We hope to have the bugs worked out by the end of the week. Angela@fandom (talk) 00:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Awesome.Baggins 01:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry that the image import is taking so long. This user you pointed out what actually removing some of that gibberish, not adding it, but thanks for pointing it out anyway. Angela@fandom (talk) 09:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Oops. Well at least you caught my mistake. Apologies. ...and again thanks for the help.Baggins 10:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Gaming IRC Chat Edit

Hi there! Just want to let you know that there is a Wikia gaming IRC channel, #wikia-gaming, where people can hop on, ask for help from users of other gaming wikis, or offer your own experiences. You can access it from . Different people may be on sporadically, but I'm organizing weekly chats at a fixed time so we can get the most number of people online at the same time to ask/answer questions, or just to hang out. The admins of some of Wikia's biggest gaming wikis (WoW, Halo) often attend them. You can find the time for the next chat by following this link.

If you happen to be technologically-adventurous, I can also help you with handy tools that can enrich the formatting and organization of the wiki such as templates, parser functions, and various MediaWiki extensions.

Again, if you have any question for anything at all, don't hesitate to ask me! -PanSola 23:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Ogg filesEdit

It's not easy to know which are missing, since they can't be previewed on one page like the images, but I believe that no ogg files should be missing. Image:Graham.ogg is there and working. Angela@fandom (talk) 01:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, then that's probably everything as far as pictures/sounds.Baggins 01:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Monaco sidebar Edit

I've done some changes to the sidebar used by the Monaco skin. Feel free to tweak it better to the needs of the wiki. Let me know if you have any questions! -User:PanSola(talk/history) 02:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know much about wiki coding myself (I just have a limited knowledge of common wiki commands). I appreciate your help on that end, and respect your judgement on improvements to the interface.Baggins 21:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: fact Edit

When you put a template in an article first, then edit the template to add a category, it takes time for the server to process the article and properly register it in the category. If you do not want to wait, you can perform a "null edit" (hit "edit", then immediately save without changing anything) to for any particular article to update. The MediaWiki software does this for performance reasons. -User:PanSola(talk/history) 05:28, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Login ProblemsEdit

I was trying to log in to fix a page, but I couldn't remember my password. I tried clicking "email password", but it says that there is no email recorded for my account. Could you please email me a password to get into my account? Elessar 14:46, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe I have access to those types of commands. I can only delete/lock pages, block users etc. I don't think I have commands to send out passwords. You might need to contact E1ven.Baggins 19:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: KQ7 Messages Folder Edit

I looked up the spelling of the names on the gravestones and the mud-bathing trolls in KQ7. Here are the various gravestone names:

Fats Woad (oddly, there are two versions of his epitaph, and one has his first name in quotes, while the other doesn't)
Marjorie Pratt
Phinneas Smite
Marjorie (not the same Marjorie as Ms. Pratt, above)
Thaddeus Scabies
Arch Duke von Drake
Dame Celia Natz
Benjamin Crabby
Marigold Gossum
Count Cranky
Madeleine Faire
Morrigan Weg
Musefar White
Brother Bob Tweet

The trolls' names are Hogarth, Blotar, Winnie and Egglentine.

By the way: There are subtitles from the game's intro in the messages folder too, and they spell the prince's name "Throckmorton", not "Throgmorton".

Akril 04:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. I don't remember mentioning that Throckmorton is ever spelled without an "r", though. If it is, it has to be a spelling mistake.

Akril 17:33, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmm...I don't know why the messages folder isn't showing up for you. I also don't know if SCI Viewer has problems running in Vista either (I'm running it in Windows XP).

Akril 02:08, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Edit

Hi Baggins, I saw your welcome message. I expect you remember me, although for some time I used the nick "Connor" :) Nice to see that KQ entered wikia and to see you again MoffRebus 19:31, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome back to the KQ omnipedia.Baggins 05:00, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Greetings Baggins,

I visit the Omnipedia occasionnally, and noticed one day a particular listing under Fanfiction. The listing is Revenge of the Black Cloak Society. I'm the writer of it, and if you wish to create an entry for it on the Omnipedia, I would be honored to help provide all info. Please contract me on yahoo, my id is richskitzcale, or on AOLIM at RichGenX 02:02, March 11, 2010 (UTC) Richard

Revenge of the Black Cloak Society fic Edit

I noticed you had responded to me via the talk on here, and since I'm not a registered user yet, I would appreciate the chance to talk with you, or even have e-mail correspondance regarding this. As I stated before, my yahoo id is richskitzcale, and my AOLIM is RichGenX. My e-mail is currently I feel that some of this info might be a bit much to post on your talk like this 03:55, March 11, 2010 (UTC)Richard

You are welcome to create a page if you like. Due to fairly busy life, I won't be able to help you create one any time soon. Please register if you like.Baggins 15:28, March 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Baggins,

I thought I'd let you know that the next chapter of Revenge of the Black Cloak Society will be posted before the end of August. I was also trying to think of how to get all the info regarding all the characters together for wikia articles. I still plan to help on this, and also adding more articles to the Shivers wikia. Hope you like how the Main Entry Hall article looks.

Cale Silver 23:49, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

I saw the modifications you made, as well as additions. I'm honored that you saw to give it a catagory on the wikia. I will try to do more with the King's Quest Omnipedia, as I am working on stories and the Shivers Omnipedia as well. So much to do, so little time.

Cale Silver 19:14, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

It's only fair that you have your own category, as there is a similar category for Cray's KQ Companion which itself is going to be a potentially large bit of fan fiction, when he finishes it.Baggins 21:21, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that mistype on the David (unoffical) page. I didn't catch it at first. I'll try to check out the chapter pages soon, since I'm planning out the next section.

Cale Silver 03:28, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

Any help is good. Edit

Thanks for the greeting, Baggins. I had left you a message before about my fic, Revenge of the Black Cloak Society. I'm still very new to making wikia entries, so any help is appreciated.

Cale Silver 02:29, March 14, 2010 (UTC)Cale Silver

Well, first thing, you are welcome to host the entire fic on this wiki if you like. If you think it would work best you are welcome to split it up chapter by chapter, with some kind of main page linking to each chapter. You could put a short synopses of the entire story on the main topic page, as well. Don't worry about formatting so much, someone else can come in and help you with that. I could probably help you fix them as time permits.Baggins 08:57, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Posting, and how you would recommend I add info regarding my story Edit

Hey, you had mentioned about putting my King's Quest fic on the Omnipedia. One, how would one go about doing that? Two, how would you recommend adding info linked to the story to all the various characters it relates to. Would you recommend a seperate section, or add it into info already there?

Cale Silver 01:43, April 11, 2010 (UTC) Cale Silver

Ad free Edit

Hi! Would you like this wiki to be ad-free? I'm looking for wikis to be part of a new program which would remove all ads from the wiki for $19.95/month.

If you are interested, please be visit here to sign up. Let me know if you have any questions! - sannse@fandom (help forum | blog) 05:52, June 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I can't afford it :).Baggins 17:41, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

About unregistered user Edit


The unregistered user that had modified Shadrack(unoffical) had been me. I had made the modification initially thinking I was logged in. Sorry about any confusion I had caused.

Cale Silver 00:02, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, there is no problem.Baggins 09:17, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Where are you?Edit

Hi, I hope you have seen my contributions in the Sierra and Conquests wiki. I'd like some help or feedback from you. Nothing in particular, just not being alone there. :) MoffRebusMy Talk 18:58, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

K, ya, I noticed your work in Sierra wiki, thanks :). I'll check out conquests.Baggins 07:43, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

King's Quest IX Edit

Baggins: "... any remakes lack a high level of creativity since they are derivitive works. Of course its not to the level of lack of creativity as this guys game..."

What's your problem, Baggins? KQIX-Team 18:06, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Alright don't take this wrong. Basically my perspective I'm not particuarly a huge supporter of the concept of fan games. I prefer official material. While I do enjoy fan remakes, I do not like them as well as the originals. So this perspective I consider original TSL game and your remake essentially equal, LOL. Not the equivalent of the official material.

Secondly, its hard to judge your game from just the demo, it will be nice to see your interpretation of the "original" screens in KQ9. Like the bedroom, or courtyard, or that extra screen in the town. So far we only can judge by a few castle screens slightly modified from KQ6.Baggins 18:22, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Fixed some damage caused by an unregistered user. Edit

Hey, just letting you know I undid the damage some unregistered user did to the Chess Board Land article.

Cale Silver 04:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Daventry Map Edit


I have no idea how good your drawing skills are, or of those who know you, but I was thinking that it might be cool to have a composite map of Daventry (the Kingdom) which would be based on all 8 games and the novels. It's obvious that Daventry grew from the time of KQ1, it'd be cool to see the land mapped out totally based on how the novels and games portray it. It would be unofficial of course, but would at least consolidate the knowledge gotten from the available sources.

I'm not an artist I did attempt such a map once in paint though, to show how things might have changed between KQ6 and KQ8. I think its in the talk page for Daventry now. It's wrong though, since I placed Castle Daventry down twice thinking there were two castles. I learned later there was only one,and it actually remained in its original place apparently (although mountain grew under it). Actually best I've been able to tell, the kingdom has grown and shrunk several times over the years. The daventry of KQ3 for example is smaller than daventry of KQ1. Its also nearly impossible to map out things due to the fact that some of the reoccuring landmarks in daventry actually shift around, sometimes north of the castle, sometimes south, etc (check out Lake Maylie, or Door into Mountain for examples). As Derek says, the world is always changing.Baggins 01:59, September 29, 2010 (UTC)



Can you find an image of the poem on the inside of the enchanter's wall?

In row of stones that number six Half and a pair from left do pick Quell then my spell Avoid the tricks-unsigned

Hmm I should have a save game near, there I'll check later.Baggins 03:07, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

Images and Items Edit

Hello, Mr. Baggins!

I was thinking that we should concentrate on creaating images for the items in the inventories. Can you handle it?


Hello Baggins!

I've been looking over some of the pages in the KQ Omni, and a couple of items in the Trivia section of Alexander's page caught my attention.

"Alexander made a trip to back to the Western Sea several months after KQ3, in order to destroy the Pirates that had enslaved him using a great storm spell on them."

Is this information from an early version of the KQ Companion? It's not cited, but I suspect it might have come from the KQ Companion (I just have the fourth edition, which, as I'm finding out, lacks a number of details that earlier versions had).

"There was apparently communication between Alexander and Cassima between the time they met in Mordack's Island and seeing each other in the magic mirror, but how, or where or when is unknown. Nothing is at it appears, and little is known. During these brief communications Alexander was given further explanation as to how she lost her Locket, she told him about Dink, and more about the Blue Beast."

There is a citation note in this paragraph, but it just leads to Cassima's page. Where did this information come from? I suppose it may have come from an early edition of the KQC as well, but it seems almost like something I'd expect to read in a piece of fan fiction (especially the "Cassima explaining the various small mysteries of KQ5" part).

Akril 09:43, November 27, 2010 (UTC)Akril

Akril, yes it's all mentioned in the An Encyclopedia of Daventry in the second Edition. The communication bit is rumored within Cassima's entry. Then there are several articles in which Cassima has given expanded explanations of her time on Mordack's Island. A couple of the specific articles mention they were explainations given to Alexander. several of these articles include info about dink, Sam, the henchman, and the Roc. If you would like to know more check out those articles. There should be citations on most of those pages. As for Alexander and the pirates, read pirates.Baggins 16:07, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see now. Most of the pages in the Omni are missing the Reference sections, so the cite numbers in those articles don't have any corresponding footnotes. I'm still not quite used to this new Wiki. I added Reference sections to the Blue Beast, Locket and Snow Leopard pages, and I'll try to add them to other pages when I have time. (the Snow Leopard page also puzzled me, as I was wondering where in the world that statement about Genesta's snow leopard possibly being her husband came from. The footnote cleared that up for me, however.)


Akril 00:42, November 28, 2010 (UTC)Akril

you're welcome, and thank you for the assistance.Baggins 01:02, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

Octopus Edit


Do you know if any Octopi were mentioned in the King's Quest games?

ZanyDragon 12:39, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

NO, I don't think so. Also don't go about creating random creatures pages, unless you offer citations of where you got the info from, and add all the releveant info related to the subject from the game. If I see an animal with no citations I may erase the article, as spam.Baggins 19:26, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Skin/Wordmark/Nav Bar Updating Edit

Hey Baggins. My name is Doug and I work for wikia in Community Development Team. I'd like to say that this wiki is very impressive! Very expansive, and I'd really like to help you guys out by 'beautifying' it. I wanted to run a few things by you to see if they were cool. I'd love to:

- Create a custom skin for the wiki

- Create a wordmark

- Update the Nav bar from the older to the newer version

I'd also like to let you know that ads will be turned onto this wiki soon. With the way that the front page is organized, their introduction might throw the look off. I am willing to also allign everything in a way so that when they are introduced, the front page style is still cohesive. I can do this for you guys, or if you'd like for someone else to see to it, it might not be bad idea.

Thanks for you time, please let me know if it's alright for me to approach these changes.

Doug @fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 17:36, August 20, 2012 (UTC)

Sure, you are welcome to clean it up if you like! What is this ads thing? Is it ads for everyone logged in and logged out?Baggins (talk) 19:27, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
This is simply just a small boxed ad that will display on the upper right side of the main page. This ad will appear for all users, whether they are logged in or not. That is the only ad addition. I'll be making theme/wordmark/front page changes today! Feel free to give me any feedback if you wish!. Thanks Baggins
Doug @fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 20:06, August 22, 2012 (UTC)
Hi Doug, I'd prefer the background art not be taken from a fan game but one of the official games. (infact the policy is that the main article pages only use canon material), I'd say King's Quest V, or even King's Quest 6. Actually the stonework with the vines from the title screens of those games might work well.Baggins (talk) 06:36, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Please use the edges of this;


Hey Baggins, sorry man, didn't realize what I grabbed was actually from a fan game! My mistake there, I'll update this skin right now to what you've suggested. Doug @fandom (profile)•(talk)•(email) 07:09, August 23, 2012 (UTC)
Much appreciated! Thanks!Baggins (talk) 07:11, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Gjlewis's NotesEdit

Baggins, can you delete "Oak trees" page? I accidently mistaken add it that I didn't notice that the "Oak tree" page already exist. Gjlewis (talk) 00:27, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

I fixed but in the future, just do a #REDIRECT command, and the name of the article you want to redirect to. For example "#redirect oak trees" will redirect to the "oak tree" article.Baggins (talk) 16:32, January 19, 2013 (UTC)

Random Hello / Self–Promotion Edit

Hi, I'm not a regular user here, in fact I've never actually edited before at all, but I've been reading on this site a lot lately largely for research on an Epic Rap Battles of History fan–video I'm making involving King's Quest. The script is almost done, and when it is indeed done, which will probably be some time tomorrow, I was wondering if you could check it out, give feedback or even promote it when it arrives in video form?

BTW love how well–kept this Wiki is overall, something you seem to be the one primarily creditable for.

BennyCupster (talk) 03:56, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Hmm, Epic Rap Battles of King's Quest History, sounds like fun. Sure, I'll check it out. You are welcome to add it to the fan fiction section of the site if you like (once its finished)? We allow quite a bit of self promotion as far as fan fiction is concerned, as long as it isn't overused as 'advertising' so to speak.Baggins (talk) 07:19, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Here it is: [1]

BennyCupster (talk) 22:22, June 20, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for checking out my script; no plans on making any "alternate cut" though (the King's Quest fan games are an important part of the overall property and offer a lot of new material to draw from for both lyrics and the visuals that will be used in the video), but the battle will indeed be recorded as a video, and I would share the beat I'm using for it right now if I knew its original title (I changed the file name long ago and can't find the original place I got it from currently).

But anyway, thanks again, and I'll likely be getting back to you with the full video in about a week or so. :}

BTW, this is my twenty–first rap battle in an overall series drawing from all manner of pop–cultural subjects. If you're interested in seeing any of my others, you can search "Moleman's Epic Rap Battles" on YouTube.

BennyCupster (talk) 18:46, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Question Edit

Would you know of any media at all out there with a variety of full–screen–focus shots of Graham speaking? This is for the video I'm making of my rap battle, needless to say. BennyCupster (talk) 02:00, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Uh well you could take Sci Viewer, and dump the animation talk boxs from KQ1, KQ5, or KQ6.

You'd have to reconstruct the animation in a animated gif maker I think.Baggins (talk) 02:09, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

I have videos of those games in full, so I can use the talk boxes, what I was wondering is if there was any animation out there with more full movement and different poses, etc? BennyCupster (talk) 02:33, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

BTW, why is it that my blog appears to be the only one on the entire site? Was I supposed/allowed to have submitted my material elsewhere? BennyCupster (talk) 02:34, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

That was fine. I don't blog, but wikia allows for anyone to write personal blogs on this site if they like.Baggins (talk) 09:24, June 22, 2014 (UTC)

Full Rap Battle Video Edit

Here it is: Moleman's Epic Rap Battles #21: King Graham of Daventry Vs. Guybrush Threepwood

BennyCupster (talk) 22:17, June 29, 2014 (UTC)

Good job!Baggins (talk) 13:32, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Do you have a YouTube account to support it by any chance? BennyCupster (talk) 16:52, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, I don't have a YouTube account.Baggins (talk) 20:18, June 30, 2014 (UTC)

Need to fix few things / Help neededEdit

Hi Baggins!

Is there a way to send you a PM or email? There's something I need help with.


Captainkirkening (talk) 19:05, November 5, 2014 (UTC)

Well, you can find me on forums (Baggins), and if you post me a PM there, let me know what's up?Baggins (talk) 22:26, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

Re: The Silver LiningEdit

Hi Baggins!

I added a Talk for The Silver Lining section, but was wondering if perhaps you could do a more formal update for the page? Some new information and pictures were released from the POS Administration regarding The Silver Lining, and I inculded some links for reference. I'm a huge fan, and would appreciate the help!

Thanks, Phae.

Phaedrina (talk) 04:42, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Phaedrina, I'm busy on a research trip at moment, but you are welcome to edit the page if you would like.Baggins (talk) 04:54, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Will do, thanks!

Phaedrina (talk) 14:14, May 30, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I had just navigated the KQ Omnipedia from this year, and it was very helpful to find several interesting KQ fanfics. 'The New Perils of Rosella' became one of my favorite story. So I fixed the link that is not available today. (Someday the author might finish this story.) For I am not good at modifing wiki pages, I will be very careful not to break the contents which exist.)

TwoDollars 12:02, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

Glad I can be of help. If you come across any lost fan stories or little known ones let us knowBaggins (talk) 18:08, May 31, 2015 (UTC)

I noticed your messages on my talk page, and responded there. Does it alert you automatically, or am I better to respond on your page?Phaedrina (talk) 20:46, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Perfect! Thanks for getting back to me so quickly. I think my brain has all the learning it can take for today, so I'll add more details tomorrow in the sections you recommended. Thanks! Phaedrina (talk) 22:02, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely! I'm doing volunteer work over the weekend, but will add those first chance I get this coming week!Phaedrina (talk) 01:54, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

Revisions - FanArticleEdit

I've noticed you added the tag FanArticle to a few pages, but I noticed the one you added to Episode 3 section of The Silver Lining seems to be incomplete. Just wanted to give you a heads up so you can go back and check on the ones you changed. Phaedrina (talk) 22:35, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Updating information, consistencyEdit

Hi Baggins!

First of all, thanks for the tip about the WayBack Machine - I will be sure to use it for unaccessible links in the future. Like you, I would like to include as much of the available data as possible.

I know I'm fairly new here, but since getting started updating I am looking at doing more updates. I have noticed some information is out of date, some links have expired, and some information is not accurate. Because of the updates happening over time from different users, some of the articles do not read well, and there isn't consistent formatting with a lot of the pages. I imagine tying to keep the whole site up to date is a lot of work, and I would like to help out where possible. The King's Quest games I own no longer run on my computer, so my main area of interest right now is with the Silver Lining, and would be happy updating the sections related to this my priority.

I saw you added an overview section to the The Silver Lining Review section, and had a few questions.

Firstly, did you want me to remove the overview from the lower section, as the part you added duplicates the information I had summarized?

I noticed for the Episode 1 overview, you listed several different references, but for the other Episodes you only mentioned MobyGames and metacritic. Will you be adding further reviews to the other Episode summaries, or are you planning on removing the other reviews from Episode 1 for consitency?

Although the information you added was for an overview, you only summarized the citicism recieved. As there were positive reviews as well, will you be adding a summary of these?

I noticed you cited MobyGames and MobiGames. Are these different? 

With the section you added, the links are unfortunately one giant mess. Do we want to add links as references where possible, so we get a consistent look to the pages? If so, what formatting style would you like to use? You mentioned you are into research, so if you use a current referencing style I would be happy to adopt it. I think having a consistent look to the links would help the information look more credible. We could always keep the referencing simple too, and use the website name, section title, and access date. What do you think?

I'm not sure if you saw my previous post, so I will reiterate it again as I know you are pretty busy making updates. You updated some pages after I updated them to add a FanArticle. However, they look incomplete and I'm not familiar with these. Is it possible you can go back and update them for consistency?

Here is the example: The information from this article is from the fan game {{{game}}} or fan fiction and is therefore not canon.

Thanks! Phae. Phaedrina (talk) 23:44, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the positive feedback. I would be happy to try and find reviews for the games you mentioned, and will add that to my to do list. Phaedrina (talk) 18:47, June 21, 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Baggins!

I recently signed up on Wikia here because I'm a big fan of King's Quest and want to help out! Is it possible that I can gain access to edit the TSL article, since Phaerena need some help? Please?

GrahamRocks! (talk) 01:00, June 29, 2015 (UTC)GrahamRocks!

I believe it's set to allow all users to edit currently.Baggins (talk) 09:30, June 29, 2015 (UTC)

Here to help and have a requestEdit

Hi! I am a Community Developer with Wikia and I have been asked to come by and redesign your mainpage. Our goal this year is to help our communites become more mobile friendly and as such, many of the templates on your mainpage will need to be restructured or removed. I will work it out on a sandbox page before committing to any final changes. Any input from you is welcome and appreciated. 

On a side note, we are in the process of created a Fantasy Ruler Bracket Tournament and would like to host it on your community if possible. Our request is that you allow us to do so, and help us promote it once it is in place. Please reply and let me know asap.  

Thanks! Pinkachu@fandom (talk) 19:01, July 8, 2015 (UTC)

What is a Fantasy Ruler Bracket Tournament?

BTW, thanks for the help. I'd really appreciate if you can redesign the main page with new templates, but keeping similar appearance in mind? Similar sections, thumbnail pictures etc.Baggins (talk) 22:48, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

Also much of the policy stuff can be found on KQ Omnipedia:Canon Policy, so the Getting Started page will need to link that especially.Baggins (talk) 22:51, July 9, 2015 (UTC)

A Bracket Tournament is used to allow fans to vote for their favorite food, character, game or whatever else we decided to do one on. We generally create a blog for it and change the information as needed to announce the winners in each bracket up to the final one. It does require that we add css code for the form but it is non-obtrusive and we can remove it when finished. We choose to do a Fantasy Ruler Bracket Tournament using Rulers (think King, Queen, Matriarch) from games, movies, books etc and picked communities to host it on. These are communities that will have a character or item listed in the tournament and we ask the Admins to encourage their community to vote. We always request permission first before we host anything on a community but it does help bring in new users to wikias they may have never visited before. We also advertise the tournaments on our main hubs.

As for your request for the mainpage. I was hoping to reduce the amount of redundant information already located on the navigation bar, especially that of your right rail and add instead the latest game news and studio twitter feeds and maybe a section to show off the latest trailer. Since this is different from what your requests are, I will instead be working with TheBlueRogue and see if we can help you keep all your current tables and yet have it mobile friendly and maybe a bit more visually pleasing. He will be in contact with you as well. I had sandboxed an idea but I will go ahead and remove it. Thank you for your promt reply. Pinkachu@fandom (talk) 00:07, July 10, 2015 (UTC)

Re:  Hosting the Fantasy Ruler Bracket TournamentEdit

Hello. I left a reply explaining what the Tournament was for but I still need to know if we can host it on your community. We are running out of time to decide placement for it, so we would appreciate a reply as soon as possible. Thanks! Pinkachu@fandom (talk) 00:01, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'm rather busy this month (real life obligations). I don't mind it being hosted, but would it be possible for you to help with the actual hosting?Baggins (talk) 08:42, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely! It's a blog and we do all the work. Just needed to make sure you were cool with it. Thanks! Pinkachu@fandom (talk) 16:52, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

NP! You have permission to do it on any of my other Sierra wikies if you like as well.Baggins (talk) 22:13, July 17, 2015 (UTC)

Mainpage UpdatesEdit

Hey there, Baggins. Hope everything has been well with ya! I've gone ahead and done some sandbox work on my own wiki in an attempt to help update the mainpage design here at the King's Quest wiki a little bit. I know you were looking to update the galleries so I've gone ahead and done that on my sandbox. You can go ahead and take a look here:

Wanted to give ya my take on a few things to see what you'd think about 'em!

1. The image galleries have been updated into new templates. They are much less complicated that what they were originally and display a bit better in mobile. I have them embedded as individual templates on my wiki, found at Template:Games , Template:Books , and Template:KQYLA. A quick note, I have all of the game's images cropped to 'portrait' which helps them all display and layer cleanly. There are a few images that are landscape style that I'd probably crop in a safe way to get the look uniform. Hope that'd be okay.

2. I went ahead and moved the policy and help text at the bottom of the left rail into a small box on the upper right hand side that will link to a more in-depth page with all of that information. Cleans up the mainpage a bit and could be used as a resource when linking to help pages or any other editor info you'd like to project to the community. You could also use it as a "news" tab and post announcements to the wiki easily. I kept the blurb about fan material because I feel that's an important bit of info to give to users immediately when they visit.

3. I was thinking it might be a bit better to condense the list of links on the right side for places, characters, villains, etc into a single image navigation style. Something like a picture of a hero, text underneath it that says heroes, and clicking on either will take you to the category page for heroes. If you'd like the text links to remain, I'll probably pull in the new header styles for each and change some of their look so they all look the same. Are you happy with just text links or are you okay with making those sections more visual?

4. Lastly, this is more of a suggestion for the future that might be a good fit for this place. There are certain wikis that utilize "Portals" which are a neat way of organizing information by each game. With how many pages, games, content, etc there is across the entire King's Quest series, I think that sort of organization could do wonders here. It'd be a lot of work to implement, but I at least wanted to show you how they looked to see if you'd like it. A good example would be the Call of Duty wiki . On the top of the mainapge you'll see a Portal Navigation, if you click on any of those games you would be taken to their portal page. Here's an example of Call of Duty Advanced Warfare's Portal Page.They have the info in collpasable tables, but I don't think that's needed. Just headers and sections with text links for those categories. If you implemented this, you could replace the links to the games with their portals, giving you an easy way to see in-depth categorization easily from one click off the mainpage. Just wanted to show ya to see if that's something you dig or not.

Lemme know if you have any other suggestions or critiques of how to improve my mainpage markup. Definitely wanna make sure you approve of any and all changes so don't hesitate to give me feedback on any section. Sorry for the wall of text, man. Hope to hear from ya soon! : > TheBlueRogue @fandom •(profile)•(talk)•( 21:02, July 29, 2015 (UTC) 

Well, I do like the cleanness of it, and straight to the point! May have to find alternative image for "Quest for Daventry' though (I think the title screen box would be a good choice). I'll look at the portals stuff later tomorrow when I have time.
As for point 3, you are suggesting something similar to what has been done on It might work, for some main topics. As for images, that might take some thinking. I think a picture of Graham's cap, might be a good representation of the main characters as a whole. As for villains, maybe an image of Manannan the cat? Obviously geography should be an image of a map. Maybe the map from KQ8 since its in color. As for the manuals section I'll probably merge those into the books section, but just need to add covers of the manuals, and other hintbooks.

As for races, can't think of anything iconic at the moment (that could represent all races in the series), but there are many images to choose from, from many different games. A dragon maybe? Or leprechaun?Baggins (talk) 21:24, July 29, 2015 (UTC)

Alternatively, it could be an entire box for "playable characters"? WIth an image for each of the characters that links to the main article for those characters? and a similar box for the Villains. No need for secondary characters having its own box though.Baggins (talk) 21:27, July 29, 2015 (UTC)
I took a look at the Space Quest mainpage and yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. A Playable Character box and Villains box would be perfect. Whatever image you think would represent either the best would work for me, the cap idea is a good one. Merging the manuals with the books section would be an excellent idea as well. I can go ahead and bring over my design over here as a baseline and we can make little tweaks to it from there. Sound good?
I'd also love to help you update other mainpage galleries on other Sierra wikis (I'll keep it simple and just update the galleries and nothing else). Have any suggestions on where I should start first? TheBlueRogue @fandom •(profile)•(talk)•( 18:44, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
Let's start with goldrush wiki since it has broken mainpage gallery. After that Gabriel Knight Wiki could use a major overhall since its back basically on the 1.0 version of the KQ wiki format (no images, just text). Police Quest WIki too could use the overhaul (its just 'text' right now). ALso Quest for Glory wiki is stuck in 2.0 mode, probably should be brought up to 3.0. I say start with those since they are some of the most complete wikis so far.Baggins (talk) 19:56, August 3, 2015 (UTC)
On another note I've started another non-video game wiki. Mostly for my historians, archaeologists interested in First World War memorials aroundt he world. I could use help creating a more compelling title page, and background art. I do have some nice images from my research I could use for the background art, but I'd like to so something with the page in the mean time to make it look nicer.

Baggins (talk) 19:58, August 3, 2015 (UTC)

Alright, I'll hit Gold Rush, Gabriel Knight, Police Quest, and Quest for Glory in the next week or two. I'll jump in with your WWI memorials wiki too (That's a pretty cool idea, actually). I've gone ahead and pulled the mainpage redesign over here for KIQ, I'm going to talk to our design team to see if they can make a custom header for the top of the mainpage for the KQ giveaway, if they don't have the time I'll make one myself over the next few days. Been nice working with you, man. You let me know if you have any other questions about things. TheBlueRogue @fandom •(profile)•(talk)•( 18:30, August 6, 2015 (UTC)


Heya baggins!

thank you for the help, this wikia is a bit confusing to me, my profile vs the one I see vs one people see. Vs kings quest omnipedia and my page.

Not sure if you have some advice for me about my page. if so hit me up!

ty mate

Kaldire (talk) 00:44, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

Ya, I'll try to answer any questions you might have! Just let me know.Baggins (talk) 00:47, August 2, 2015 (UTC)

KQ8 screenshotsEdit

Baggins, I found a bunch of early (1996-1997) KQ8 pix. Can you log in to the Hero-U forum, I'll send the pix and links to them through there? It seems there is a lot of early KQ8 screenshots floating around on non-English websites.....

Baggins, I've found a bunch of early (1996-1997) KQ8 screenshots. My name is King Kane over at the Hero-U forum, please log in over there so I can send you the pix and the links. There seems to be a lot of early KQ8 pix on non-Englis game websites.... 08:03, November 29, 2015 (UTC) 

I'm logged in, just message me over there. I am Baggins over there.Baggins (talk) 18:25, November 29, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Baggins-I was merely editing Cripin's page because the opening line made no sense-hope it looks all right to you!

CelticDragon0 (talk) 02:03, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

IT was probalby meant to say "grand" or "high" wizard, but otherwise the edit andremoval of the extra'wizard' works.Baggins (talk) 02:21, January 13, 2016 (UTC)

Gaming footer Edit

Hi, Baggins!

Someone recently nominated the King's Quest Omnipedia for inclusion in our gaming footers. Please let me know if you are interested!

Best regards,

Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:23, February 20, 2016 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with that, go ahead.Baggins (talk) 12:41, February 21, 2016 (UTC)
Done for both sites ;) Raylan13@fandom (talk) 17:51, February 22, 2016 (UTC)

I was trying to make a link from the King's Quest II page to a page on the Quest For Glory wiki, but when I click the link, it says I did it worng. Please help, sorry for troubling you. Captainjackster (talk) 22:10, June 21, 2016 (UTC)

thank you for your input on my edit! i welcome all criticism :) and looking through the other character pages, i agree. there are some characters who have too many nicknames and i will definitely keep in mind next time between nicknames and discriptors. 

regarding the alignments, i totally agree that it should be changed to bravery, compassion, and wisdom as you're right about it mostly being how it relates to graham.

and yes, i do plan on adding the infoboxes to other characters using graham's page as reference. i can also edit the html of the infobox to take out the nicknames label from the template completely. 

again, i am open to any criticism! i am fairly new to this but i would like to contribute as much as i can while following the guidelines :)

Masterblazz (talk) 02:10, October 3, 2016 (UTC)

quick question, should we add a relationship section to the characters? e.g amaya + whisper's relationship is part of their personality, but should be its own section i believe? i went ahead and added it on amaya, whisper, and achaka's profile as an example; feel free to give your input

Masterblazz (talk) 10:39, October 31, 2016 (UTC)

===Re: Size of the infoboxes===

i'll look into finding a way to make it collapsable as it does look 'bulky', especially with characters with a lot of information. as for the tabs at the top, i didn't think it would be so big either. i thought the formatting would be the same as tags on other wikias; i am still looking for a way to format that as well.

Masterblazz (talk) 00:04, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

Collapsible InfoboxEdit

Hello! Sorry for the delay, but I've finally added the collapse option to the infoboxes. I also would like to change the size of the tabs at the top, but I do not have access to the wikia's css so I just did what I could for now. If there's anything else you would like me to change, let me know. 

On a separate note, happy holidays :)

Masterblazz (talk) 10:34, December 25, 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, and Holidays.Thank you, and I'll check it out.

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